slavov Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Hello Everybody, my name is Svetozar. I am interested in carving glass, riverstones, marble or bones and horns (deer). I have experience with the pencil and the paper, but now I want to grow up in higher dimension. I think that I can make my drawings now on glass. I had read some artikles about glass etching/carving and I did watch somw youtube clips. So... I am on the way to buy a machine (tool) for the job. I will begin with smaller artworks from glass and then I think to make designer mirrors or windows of shops (I don't know the word for big window of a shop). With that i think to make miniatures from stones and bones. I did watch the videos of Lesley Pyke, but I don't know what is the better choice for my work - electric tool or air tool? I had read that the electrics are slower, but in the most videos that I had watch, all artist use electric tools. In a forum for woodcarving all artists said, that they use air tool only for small details, but really small... I know that wood and glass/stone/horn are complete different materials, but there must be an answer for my question. The idea is to make artwork that can't be bought at the shop. For example: http://www.angiegodwin.com/page2.html or: http://etch1.homestead.com/page2.html or: http://www.chrissommer.com/etched-glass/etched-doors/ These are etched I thing, but you got the idea I am sure about that. If I buy a rottary tool I must buy a compressor too. In that case I will have the option to connect a etching tool/airbrush... But!!! I cant find anywhere a information if the compressors are the same... And what is better - without oil or what? I had read some artikles about NSK, Turbocarver, Powercarver, Mastercarver.... but I want an opinion from an artist, not from seller if you understand me... So here are people with experience, that is my situation, what will you recommend for me? Is there an option for "second hand" carving tool. I didn't find that anywhere, but u can know some place online... Thanks for the help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yloh Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Hi, Svetozar, Do you ever heard of copper wheel glass engraving? check these out, . . as the matter of fact, this is what i am intend to do.Please check this, http://www.thecarvin...materials-swap/ scroll down you will see what I have, a home made machine. I like the copper wheel technic a little more. regards. Yloh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony N Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 i use both but for the more fine stuff use a dremel or a fullers if your a little better of money wise you could try a pedent drill like you can get a www.regal.co.nz i only carve bone http://www.regal.co.nz/category.php?sub_id=276 http://www.regal.co.nz/category.php?sub_id=275 hope this helps give you some ideas or may be a old dentists drill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slavov Posted April 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 Hi again and thanks for answers! So I had looking at NSK presto and Turbocarver. All of them use compressor. Will you explain please, because I didn't understand - can I use the handpiece on airbrush compressor - http://fxcolor.eu/shop/categories/ОБОРУДВАНЕ-и-Аксесоари/КОМПРЕСОРИ-%7B47%7D-Compressors/ I am from Europe and there is 220V and the price will be lower and tax-free if I buy this from a local shop. Here is NOWHERE in my country shop for power systems. I mean - can I use the handpiece on every compressor or they are special? Another question - when I buy such a thing I just plug the cable in and begin to work right? I mean - no CO2 bottles... No consumatives change... right? How it works that is my question. I am interested for now in: http://www.turbocarver.com/purchaselist/body_purchaselist.htm Turbo Carver Compressor System Between this and NSK Presto - which is better? I need a compressor for 220V. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janel Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Hello Slavov, I am using an NSK Elector (or Elektor) micro motor tool that is not air driven. It plugs into electricity and works no air compressor is necessary. This forum topic came up on an internet search that shows some other members who use micro-grinders such as this: http://www.thecarvingpath.net/forum/index.php?/topic/1401-micromotor-tools/ Since I have not used a compressor driven micro-grinder, I cannot compare their virtues. I hope that you will be able to learn what you need to help you decide where and what to purchase. Janel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yloh Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 The air compressor has to provide sufficient air pressure (psi) and air flow (CFM ) to drive the handpiece. check the requirement of your handpiece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toothy Posted April 7, 2012 Report Share Posted April 7, 2012 Hello Slavov, As a retired dentist just a few pointers if you decide to go with an air micro-motor. You will need a compressor of 100 liters otherwise a smaller one will run continuously. The compressor needs to be placed out of hearing range for both you and your neighbours. Check the requirements of the micro-motor with regard to MINIMUM pressure and CONTINUOUS volume supply. Preferably oil free, have a water trap fitted and if not automatically emptying, empty often. Compressed air hoses are usually stiffer than an electric cable as on eg an NSK. I carve mainly wood but have started working bone and use a Dremel micro-motor and a Dremel cable drive at speeds of ± 15 - 20 000 rpm. I also use an NSK with a speed range 1000 - 55 000rpm. The NSK only takes dental bits!! If I can find it I recently saw a number of electric micro-motors described and for sale in the UK (220 v) I'll post the connection if possible. Toothy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janel Posted April 7, 2012 Report Share Posted April 7, 2012 Hi Toothy, Not all NSK tools use dental bits. I use 3/32" and 1/8" bits and burrs. The coiled electric cord is much friendlier to my wrist and arm than the stiffer Dremel cable drive that I began with in 1995. Janel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slavov Posted April 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 Very useful, thanks Toothy! What model NSK does work with dental bits? I am pretty sure that I will buy the air tool, but this will be useful info. I did make a little research at the local stores and I did find out that on market are soooo many compressors. I know the noise will be like from a dentist cabinet. Is there a possible solution about the noise... I did saw a used Turbocarver piece in ebay but there was no international shipping So... I am at hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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